Join us for CCC Public Meeting on 20 mph in Croydon – Mon 6 February 2017

Please join us for our public meeting in the hall to the rear of:

St. Michael and All Angels with St. James
Poplar Walk

Enter via the gate to the left of the Church.

Please book a free place to attend.

St Michael front

This meeting is on the current 20mph consultation which opened on 18 January and runs until 15 February 2017.  See full details of the Croydon Council website.

The cabinet member, Cllr Stuart King, and the Shadow Cabinet member, Cllr Sara Bashford, are attending to speak and to answer questions.

The Council Officer overseeing the consultation, Mr Waheed Alam, has provided copies of leaflets for the meeting and has offered to provide answers to questions raised.

If you have a question to raise about the introduction of 20mph, why not add a comment to this post and we’ll endeavour to get an answer? Don’t forget to check the Council’s FAQs first which you can download here: 20mph FAQs

If you already live in an area where 20mph has been introduced, why not come along and share your experiences?

If you have a view, either FOR or AGAINST 20mph, why not share your views by posting a comment on the posts on our website? Just click the links above.


IMG_7835There will be general local information on display on the night and copies to take away.


Our meetings are open to all and are strictly apolitical.


Doors open at 7pm, when tea and coffee will be available and you’ll have the chance to meet others attending.

The meeting will start between 7.20 and 7.30pm, depending on how quickly we can register people, so please prebook a place via Eventbrite to assist with this.

There will be brief introductions and notices to start before we open up to discuss the topic.

We will aim to finish around 8.45pm to allow those attending to speak informally, to clear up, and for us to vacate the venue by 9pm. 


Please book a free place on Eventbrite here:

If you prefer you can email us at and we can book for you, but it really helps if you can use Eventbrite!

Getting there:
There is no general parking available at this venue, but its central location on good transport links should make it accessible to all. We may be able to cater for blue badge holders, so please get in touch well ahead of the event if this affects you.

The hall is to the rear of the Church, accessed through the gate in the fencing to the left of the main Church entrance.

And feel free to add your questions and comments to the posts in the links above ahead of the event.

You can also join our mailing list to get an invitation to our events and occasional updates via email by emailing with your name and Add me in the subject line.



1. How will 20mph be enforced, especially in small side roads which folk may use as a ‘rat run’?

2. Why not have 20mph limit across Farthing Down where people often speed? This would add extra safety for the cattle, when they are there, and generally enhance the environment of the area.

3. If the majority of road traffic accidents occur on main roads why not prioritise these for speed reduction first rather than the roads proposed, where there are fewer or no road traffic accidents?

4. Can and will the police enforce 20mph speed limits?

5. Will the introduction of 20mph zones have any effect on the speed at which emergency vehicles can travel?

6. Why was the policy imposed in north Croydon when only 2% of the population felt it important enough to vote on?

7. What level of objection would have an effect on the proposed scheme?

8.  Why was Smitham Downs Road included – it is a B road and is wide, not very busy, has no schools and not dangerous in my opinion?

9.  If the scheme includes Pampisford Road, this will drive all the traffic onto the Brighton Road, which doesn’t seem sensible.

10.  Shouldn’t Chaldon Way/Mead Way stay at 30 as again they are both wide, with little traffic and very few parked cars, and are bus routes?

11.  How will objections be counted ( e.g.per number of signatories, per number of objections listed, per individual objections logged as separate objections) and will they be weighted in any way ( e.g objection from Residents Association, household, individual?)

The following questions were also received, posted as a comment below, summarised as follows:

12. Where is the road-by-road analysis of speeds and accidents?

13. Why is the Council denying people a YES / NO vote?

14. Why is the Council treating Areas 3, 4 and 5 differently to Areas 1 and 2?  Areas 1 and 2 were given a YES / NO vote, and a commitment that a NO would mean the scheme was dropped.

14a. Isn’t this difference unfair and discriminatory?

15. How will the council ensure that its 20mph proposals do not cause major enforcement issues?

16. Why has the council imposed this complicated and confusing “consultation process, with hundreds of roads in each area to consider?

17. How has the council ensured that everyone who is affected is made aware of the proposal and how to respond, including all those who drive in Croydon?

18. Given the scale and complexity of the change proposed, will the Council agree to hold a Public Inquiry before going ahead with its 20mph downgrade scheme?

19. Will the Council consider 25mph limits, and also variable 30 / 20 limits outside schools and colleges, as an alternative to its 20mph scheme?

20. How will the Council comply with government guidance that says community support is an essential element of a successful 20mph scheme?

21. Why has the council used so few street notices, and ones that are very hard to spot, and to read? Large notices were displayed in Areas 1 and 2.

22. Will the Council accept that the TMAC procedure with only 2 minutes between all objectors, is wholly inadequate for this huge 20mph scheme?

23. It is my opinion that driving for long periods at 20mph is frustrating and makes concentration difficult. What proper community impact assessment has the council performed, notably on the negative impact on drivers?

24. Emergency service vehicles need to overtake other traffic. With speed limits reduced from 30mph to a maximum 20mph there will be many more vehicles to overtake on emergency calls.  How much delay to emergency services has the council assessed to be a price worth paying for its almost all roads downgrade to 20mph scheme?


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